HomeMy WebLinkAbout11/14/77PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 14, 1977
7:30 P. M.
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 P.M. by Chairman Stoffel.
Members:Present: Commissioners Stoffel, Gergen, Terrell, Wendler, Kramer,
Groth a~d Fischer who arrived at 7:37 P.M., and Murry who
arrived at 8:17 P. M.
Members Absent: Johnson
Moved by Commissioner Groth, seconded by Commiss-
ioner Wendler to approve the Mirlxtes of October 24, 1977.
6 Ayes - 0 Nayes.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Chairman Stoffel opened the Public Hearing at 7:30 P. M.
The Zoning Officer indicated that on file was the Notice
of Public Hearing, Affidavit of Publication, and
Certificate of Mailing. Thus, the Public Hearing
was properly called. The Zoning Officer explained that
since the last Planning Commission meeting, the
developer had met all staff concerns with the minor
exception of labeling one easement as for drainage and
utility instead of just for utilities. He explained that the
staff recommendation was to approve the preliminary plat
subject to the developer making the indicated change on the
preliminary plat. He also recommended that, in order to
clarify the record regarding the total number of units approved
by the City in 1971, the City should grant a density variance
for the project.
PUBLIC HEARING -
PRE LIMINARY PLAT -
WESTVIEW ADDITION -
SITE PLAN REVIEW-
MID CONTINENT DEVEL-
OPERS
The Zoning Officer also explained that the Staff had reviewed the
site plan and found it to be in compliance with City regulations.
The Staff recommendation was to approve the site plan.
After all persons were afforded an opportunity to: be heard on
the matter, Chairman Stoffel closed the Public Hearing at 7:39
P.M.
Moved by Commissioner Wendler, seconded by Commissioner
Kramer to approve the preliminary plat subject to the developer
making the indicated change on the preliminary plat; to approve a
density variance for a total of 247 units; and to approve the site plan.
7 Ayes - 0 Nayes.
Planning Commission Minutes
November 14, 1977
Chairman Sfoffel opened the Public Hearing at 7:40
P.M. The Zoning Officer indicated that on file was
the Notice of Public Hearing, Affidavit of Publication,
and Certificate of Mailing. Thus, the Public Hearing
was properly called. The Zoning Officer explained that
the developer had sa~is£ied the Staff concerns discussed
PUBLIC HEARING -
WHISPERING OAKS PHASE
II - SITE PLAN REVIEW
MID CO1NTINE1NT DEVEL-
OPERS
at the last Planning Commission meeting and that the developer
had provided the City a copy of an easement agreement with
the adjacent property owners a~d the Townhouse Association.
He explained that the Staff recommendation was to approve the
preliminary plat with the condition that the developer file all
easements with the final plat.
The Zoning Officer indicated that the Staff had reviewed the
site plan and found it to be in compliance with City regulations.
The Staff recommendation was to approve the site plan with the
condition that the developer provide access to V~rhispering Lane
at the point where the private drive has a temporary turn-around
when W~hispering Lane is developed.
Mrs. Eleanor Liska, President of the Townhouse Association,
informed the Planning Commission that because of a technicality
regarding the Association's voting requirements, her signature on
the easement agreement may not be valid. 3ohn McDonald, a
representative of the developer, explained that any question as to the
validity of the easement agreement could be cleared up before the final
plat was recorded.
There was considerable discussion about past drainage problems in
Phase I of the project and who should pay for damages in the event that
similar problems arise in the future.
Moved by Commissioner Murry, seconded by Commissioner Terrell
to table the approval until the developer reaches an agreement with the
City to pay for future damages resulting from water runoff.
Murry, Terrell, Gergen - Aye - Groth, I~ramer, Stoffel, Wendler
and Fischer - Nay. Motion failed.
Commissi~er Fischer asked the Zoning Officer why the drainage
for Phase I of the project was being discussed since Phase Ihas already
been approved and that the preliminary plat and site plan for Phase II
was what was under review at this time. The Zoning Officer explained
that the drainage for Phase I was being discussed in the review for Phase
II because that drainage had an affect on Phase II drainage. He explained
that the developer had made provisions for improving Phase I drainage and
that the Staff felt the drainage plan for Phase II was acceptable.
Some townhouse residents expressed concern over all residents of the
townhouses having to pay for future assessments.
Planning Commission Minutes -3- November 14, 1977
After all persons were afforded an opportunity to be
heard on the matter, Chairman Stoffel closed the Public
Hearing at 8:30 P. M.
Moved by Commissioner Fischer, seconded by Commissioner
Wendler to approve the preliminary plat and site plan subject
to legal clarification on the easement agreements and the
developer providing the City with evidence of an agreement to
provide a street access at the temporary turn-around point when
Whispering Lane is developed.
7 Ayes - Murry, Nay.
Moved by Commissioner Fischer, seconded by Commissioner
Wendler to suggest that the Council investigate assessment procedures
in the townhouse area and determine if they should be changed.
7 Ayes - Gergen, Nay.
Cornn~issioner Groth gave the Committee report which
recommended approving the request. The Planning
Commission discussed possible danger to have
children playing near Pine Street which has pretty
hearst traffic. Moved by Commissioner Groth, .seconded
by Commissioner Wendler to approve the Home Occupa-
tion Permit. ? Ayes - Gergen, Nay.
Chairman Stoffel referred the Preliminary Plat for
Country Club 4th Addition to the Wendler Committee
for further study regarding the width of the street right-
of-way and the issue of a public path in the drainage and
utility easement.
COMMITTEE REPORT-
HOME OCCUPATION
PERMIT - DAY CARE
CENTER - 910 W. 9TH
MR. & MRS. JAMES
PETERS
PRELIMINARY PLAT -
COUNTRY CLUB 4TH ADD.
The Zoning Officer explained that Mr. Conzemius
wants to rezone, plat, and obtain a special use permit
for the purpose of constructing a duplex on his property.
He also explained that since Mr. Conzemius is obtaining
some land from the Sisters of Charity, both parcels are
REZONING- PRELIMI-
NARY PLAT - SPECIAL
USE PERMIT -PROPOSED
VALLEY WEST ADDITION-
WEST SIDE OF FARM ST.
being platted together. He indicated that the Staff felt BETWEEN 1ST ST. AND
the proposals meet all required criteria except that sewer ZND ST. -ALOIS CONZE-
and water locations should be shown on the preliminary MIUS
plat. Moved by Commissioner Wendler, seconded by
Commissioner Fischer to schedule a Public Hearing on
the requests for the November 28th Planning Commission
meeting. 8 Ayes - 0 Nayes.
The Zoning Officer explained that the Archdiocese had
received a variance in 1976 to build an elderly housing
project of 109 units where the zoning requirements had
allowed only a total of 108 units. A subsequent survey had
revealed a reduction in the total lot area equal to 1897.6
square feet - which meant that only 107 units would have
been the maximum allowed by the zoning ordinance.
VARIA1NC E - DENSITY
REQUIREMENTS -ARCH-
DIOCESE OF ST. PAUL
& MPLS. - ELDERLY
HOUSING PROJECT -
1199 BAHLS DRIVE
Planning Commission Minutes -4- November 14, 1977
The Zoning Officer indicated that no other zoning
requirements were affected, and that the Staff ftc-
commended approving a new variance.
Moved by Commissioner Fischer, seconded by Com-
missioner Murry to approve the variance.
8 A}res 0 Nayes
The Zoning Officer explained that the owners of the
Westview Shopping Center were proposing to provide
an outside waste storage area for a grocery store in the
shopping center rather than an inside storage area as
required by the development agreement. The reason
an outside waste storage area was being asked for was
that the room originally planned for that use had been
taken up with an incinerator. The Zoning Officer in-
dicated that any change in the development agreement
would have to be approved by the Planning Commis-
sion and that another item in the development agreement,
namely the screening of rooftop machinery, had not
been complied with. Chairman Stoffel referred the
matter to the Fischer Committee.
The Zoning Officer suggested that the Fischer com-
mittee look into amending the zoning ordinance to
allow accessory buildings in side yards, establish
regulations for signs in the C-5 district, and re-
strictions for signs advertising future businesses
on construction sites.
Moved by Commissioner Wendler, seconded by
Commissioner Murry to adjourn at 9:25 P. M.
8 Ayes-0 Nayes
RENEGOTIATION OF
DEVELOPMENT AGREE-
MENT FOR WESTVIEW
SHOPPING CENTER
PROPOSED AMENDMENTS
TO THE ZONING
ORDINANCE
ADJOURNMEiNT
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